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When talking about hobbies, interests, etc. it's pretty usual, I think, to nominalize string of words chained by particles. For example drawing pictures is 「絵を描く」or playing soccer is 「サッカーをする」. If one of my hobbies is drawing pictures, I can say, for example (please correct the sentence if it's wrong):

絵を描くのは一つの楽しみなんです。

However, I noticed that for such patterns, particles can usually be replaced with 「の」like:

絵の描くのは一つの楽しみなんです。

I can't think of more complex examples that I'm very sure of but, for example when speaking about drawing using pencils, we say 「えんぴつで絵を描く」. However, when speaking about drawing with pencils, if I understand correctly, we can also use the pattern 「えんぴつの絵の描く事は〜」.

What are the grammar rules behind these? To be honest, I'm not sure if this question even has basis (because I'm not so sure about my examples), so please enlighten me on this.

Earthliŋ
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Psycho Punch
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    I don't think the ga-no (and wo-no) conversion usually happens with the nominalising ～の or ～こと -- only with 'real' nouns. (That is, I mean to say that your examples sound odd.) But I'm sure someone will prove me wrong there. – oals Jul 25 '16 at 17:24
  • Also, the canonical question about の in relative clauses is here: https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/12825 – oals Jul 25 '16 at 17:30
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    @oals It's usually said that there is no conversion from を to の in Standard Japanese: http://www.meijigakuin.ac.jp/~hiraiwa/PDF/Hiraiwa_NGC_JK10.pdf But it has also been claimed that there is some limited conversion from を to の in Kansai Japanese: http://igg41.unistrapg.it/abstract/Inoue.pdf –  Jul 25 '16 at 21:38
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    As mentioned by @oals (`only with 'real' nouns`), maybe you're thinking about something like 絵**を**描く→絵画**の**製作, ピアノ**を**弾く→ピアノ**の**演奏, 本**を**買う→本**の**購入 etc, no? – Chocolate Jul 26 '16 at 00:15

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In subordinate clauses like these, ONLY が can be replaced by の (and only when the verb follows immediately after, to prevent confusion with the other Noun+の+Noun meaning). を, で, and other particles cannot be replaced by の in subordinate clauses. For example:

○ 私が作った料理 → 私の作った料理
○ 木村が買った本 → 木村の買った本

The phrase「絵の描くのは」is valid if the picture is the one drawing, not being drawn (which does not make sense).「えんぴつの絵の描く事は」looks crazy does not make sense. It looks like "the action of the pencil's picture's drawing".

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