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I feel like there's no link between P(A) and P(A|B), where A and B are random events. For example, P(A) can be 0.3 and P(A|B) can be 0.9.

However, I'm not so sure of this when P(A) is either 0 or 1. I mean:

  1. P(A)=0 => P(A|B)=0, for every random event B ?
  2. P(A)=1 => P(A|B)=1, for every random event B ?
user_anon
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You have issues when $\mathbb P (B)=0$ but is not impossible

Consider for example $X$ a random variable with a standard Gaussian distribution $\mathcal N(0,1)$

  1. Let $A$ be the event $X^2=4$ and $B$ the event $X=-2$. Then $\mathbb P (A)=0$ but $\mathbb P (A\mid B)=1$

  2. Let $A$ be the event $X^2 \not = 4$ and $B$ the event $X=-2$. Then $\mathbb P (A)=1$ but $\mathbb P (A\mid B)=0$

If you know $\mathbb P (B)$, then there are bounds relating $\mathbb P (A)$ and $\mathbb P (A\mid B)$: $$\mathbb P (A\mid B){\mathbb P (B)} \le \mathbb P (A) \le \mathbb P (A\mid B)\mathbb P (B)+(1-\mathbb P (B))$$ which if $\mathbb P (B)$ is non zero is equivalent to $$1-\dfrac{1-\mathbb P (A)}{\mathbb P (B)} \le \mathbb P (A\mid B) \le \dfrac{\mathbb P (A)}{\mathbb P (B)}$$

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P(A) and P(A|B) are linked, since the occurrence of B does affect the probability of the occurrence of A.

example:

  • P(A) = You pass your exam = 0.3
  • P(B) = You study for you exam
  • P(A|B) = You studied, so there is a higher chance of passing your exam = 0.9

However, point 1 and 2 are true:

1) P(A) = 0, event that will not occur. No prior event can change that.

2) P(A) = 1, event that will definitely occur. No prior event can change that.

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  • I thought about the link between the Values of P(A) and P(A|B). P(A) can be every number in (0,1) and P(A|B) any other number in (0,1)... Why 1) and 2) are true? – user_anon Sep 09 '17 at 09:15
  • OK. So, if you have only the value of P(A) and have to calculate P(A|B), then you can "calculate" it only if P(A) is 0 or 1, right? If P(A) is in the interval (0,1) then you need extra info to calculate P(A|B), I guess. – user_anon Sep 09 '17 at 09:19
  • In theory you are assuming P(A) ≠ 0 and P(A) ≠ 1, that is trivial. Yes, the extra info is the dependence of two events. – Laksan Nathan Sep 09 '17 at 09:24
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    A more precise version of (1) and (2) would be true, but as written, they are not quite right (in the general case). That the probability measure of an event is 1 does not imply the event "will definitely occur." A zero probability does not imply the event will not occur. Example: Let $X$ be a random variable that follows the standard normal distribution. $P(X=0) = 0$ but that event can occur. – Matthew Gunn Sep 11 '17 at 08:43
  • Yes, I should have used the terms: 1) event happens **almost never** 2) event happens **almost surely** – Laksan Nathan Sep 11 '17 at 08:51