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I'm just wondering if I am understanding stock options correctly.

Basically if I am watching stock XYZ. It's currently at $10 per share which I believe is low and should raise to 20 within 1 month.

If I buy this option while the stock is at $10 (is this the stake?) for 30 days, and the stock price rises to 20, I can choose to sell it back to the market and earn the difference between stock prices minus option cost and commissions? ($20 x 100) - (10 x 100) - (option price x 100) - commissions.

Any any quick tips for trading with options?

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  • Are you asking about stock options (such as those given to employees of startups), or about call options (or possibly put options)? – ChrisInEdmonton Jul 21 '14 at 01:49
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    @ChrisInEdmonton: Employee stock options are (for obvious reasons) always call options, but usually not Over-The-Counter call options (i.e. not publicly tradeable) – MSalters Jul 21 '14 at 12:23
  • @ChrisInEdmonton I did not mean employee Stock options. Thanks. – leeman24 Jul 21 '14 at 12:54
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    Quick tip: If you ask for "any quick tips for trading with options", then the answer is: Don't do it. It's a thoroughly risky business where you can easily lose all your investment or worse, so if you are in a position where you ask for "quick tips", then don't do it. – gnasher729 Jul 21 '14 at 14:17
  • @gnasher729 Thank you for this quick tip. I am not planning to implement options yet as I am just starting to understand them. However I would one day like to understand them and know what people do in the real world to make money. From there if I understand it, I can make my own decisions on whether it is too risky or not. I do appreciate your cautionary warning and I do note all feedback. – leeman24 Jul 21 '14 at 14:27
  • I tweaked the title to try and differentiate it from employee incentive stock options. If anyone can improve further, please do. :) – Alex B Jul 21 '14 at 15:44
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    I appreciate all the knowledge and opinions so far. I like this community so far. – leeman24 Jul 21 '14 at 16:30

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Options have legitimate uses as a way of hedging a bet, but in the hands of anyone but an expert they're gambling, not investing. They are EXTREMELY volatile compared to normal stocks, and are one of the best ways to lose your shirt in the stock market yet invented.

How options actually work is that you're negotiating a promise that, at some future date or range of dates, they will let you purchase some specific number of shares (call), or they will let you sell them that number of shares (put), at a price specified in the option contract. The price you pay (or are paid) to obtain that contract depends on what the option's seller thinks the stock is likely to be worth when it reaches that date. (Note that if you don't already own the shares needed to back up a put option, you're promising to pay whatever it takes to buy those shares so you can sell them at the agreed upon price.)

Note that by definition you're betting directly against experts, as opposed to a normal investment where you're usually trying to ride along with the experts. You are claiming that you can predict the future value of the stock better than they can, and that you will make a profit (on the difference between the value locked in by the option and the actual value at that time) which exceeds the cost of purchasing the option in the first place.

Let me say that again: the option's price will have been set based on an expert's opinion of what the stock is likely to do in that time. If they think that it's really likely to be up $10 per share when the option comes due (really unlikely for a $20 stock!!!), they will try to charge you almost $10 per share to purchase the option at the current price. "Almost" because you're giving them a guaranteed profit now and assuming all the risk. If they're less sure it will go up that much, you'll pay less for the option -- but again, you're giving them hard money now and betting that you can predict the probabilities better than they can.

Unless you have information that the experts don't have -- in which case you're probably committing insider trading -- this is a very hard bet to win. And it can be extremely misleading, since the price during the option period may cross back and forth over the "enough that you'll make a profit" line many times. Until you actually commit to exercising the option or not, that's all imaginary money which may vanish the next minute.

Unless you are willing and able to invest pro-level resources in this, you'd probably get better odds in Atlantic City, and definitely get better odds in Las Vegas.

If you don't see the sucker at the poker table, he's sitting in your seat. And betting against the guy who designed and is running the game is usually Not a Good Idea.

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    Not surprised someone downvoted. People don't like hearing this, especially folks who think they've found a way to win this game. – keshlam Jul 21 '14 at 03:15
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    Good answer - for laymen it is basically like betting on the tracks, but that you know only the names of the horses - and there are a hundred special rules how a horse can get disqualified you know nothing about... – Falco Jul 21 '14 at 08:51
  • I like the last answer but also really really like this answer. I am just getting into investing. I do not plan to use these yet but just like with anything, i'd like to at least understand them. I am just doing research so I can understand terms and strategies people use to understand the overall market. – leeman24 Jul 21 '14 at 13:03
  • I like how this answer "Note that by definition you're betting directly against experts" – leeman24 Jul 21 '14 at 13:03
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    Actually everyday investor can write (sell) options as well as buy them. Market Makers provide liquidity in the market for both buyer and sellers. – Victor Jul 21 '14 at 13:24
  • Only problem with selling options is that you can own more than all your investment. – gnasher729 Jul 21 '14 at 14:18
  • @gnasher729 - ??? – Victor Jul 21 '14 at 14:43
  • "the option's price will have been set based on an expert's opinion of what the stock is likely to do in that time." Yes and no. No, in that the option's price is set the same as any other security, based on what buyers are willing to pay and sellers are willing to accept. Yes in that the majority of option writers tend to be sophisticated (institutions, quants, etc.) and know what they are doing. Your sentence after that is really a glossing over of all the greek letters used in calculations. Overall, I would say not technically correct, but good enough for someone with no experience . –  Jul 21 '14 at 16:18
  • and with regards to Atlantic City or Vegas, the problem with options is that - except for really liquid securities like QQQ or something the spread is usually pretty ridiculous, especially for out of the money issues. –  Jul 21 '14 at 16:19
  • @gnasher: I think you meant "owe", not "own". And yeah, that's one of the problems with options -- you can quickly leverage yourself right over the cliff. – keshlam Jul 21 '14 at 17:42
  • The problem is not options, options are just a tool like leverage, and if used correctly both options and leverage are very useful tools. The problem is with greed causing people to try to use leverage, options and other similar tools to get rich overnight ! – Victor Jul 21 '14 at 23:07
  • The problem is people not understanding just how different options are from standard stock transactions, and adopting more risk than they realize. "If you must swim alone, leave word with someone. It's hard enough finding the body when we know which lake to drag." -- Keshlam the Seer – keshlam Jul 21 '14 at 23:19
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    @keshlam - options can be less risky than shares if used correctly - if you buy options you have a limited downside for a potentially unlimited upside. Fear and greed are both bad when it comes to investing, and they are what get most people into trouble. – Victor Jul 22 '14 at 07:08
  • Victor: That rationalle only applies if you believe the stock will collapse seriously. Options, if not exercised, are a guaranteed loss of the full investment. Shares (a) can be held until they recover (and generally should be, if they were worth buying at all), and (b) may not be a complete loss even if sold quickly, since the stock may not go down that far (or go down at all; it just might not gain as much as you expect). Comparing the per-share effect is misleading; you need to look at what happens to _your_ money in the various cases. I remain unconvinced that speculation is ever "correct" – keshlam Jul 22 '14 at 12:48
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    @keshlam - _"Options, if not exercised, are a guaranteed loss of the full investment."_ - No they are not, you can sell them back on the market before they expire. _"That rationale only applies if you believe the stock will collapse seriously."_ - you don't have to believe it, but they do - remember the GFC ? It sounds like you know very little about the financial markets going by your answer and comments, so I don't think you should be giving advice to others. You clearly don't understand options, so you are correct in one thing - you should not be touching them ! – Victor Jul 23 '14 at 03:17
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Here is a quick and dirty explanation of options. In a nutshell, you pay a certain amount to buy a contract that gives you the right, but not the obligation, to buy or sell a stock at a predetermined price at some date in the future.

They come in a few flavors:

  • Call Option - You can buy a stock at a predetermined price (higher than the current price) sometime in the future. You are betting that the stock will grow beyond that price by the expiration date of the contract.

I'll give you $100 if you let me buy 10,000 shares of XYZ for $10 more per share than it is trading at today any time before August 10th.

  • Put Option - You can SELL a stock at a predetermined price (lower than the current price) in the future. You are betting that the stock will drop lower than that price by the expiration date of the contract.

I'll give you $100 if you promise to buy 10,000 shares of XYZ from me for $10 less per share than it is trading at today if I ask before August 10th.

There are also two main types based on the expiration behavior:

  • European Style - You have to execute the option on the expiration date, and not before.
  • American Style - You can execute the option any time up to the expiration date.

There are lots of strategies that employ options, too many to go into. Two key uses are..

  • Leverage: Buying Call options can give you a much higher return on your investment than just investing in the actual stock. However, with much higher risk of losing all of your investment instead of just some of it when the stock drops.

  • Hedging: If you already own the underlying stock, put options can be used to buy down risk of serious drops in a holding.

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    I agree with most of your answer except you didn't include that you can buy or sell (write) options. Also if you are buying a Call Option you are limited in losing the option premium which in most cases would be much less that what you could lose if you bought the shares directly. – Victor Jul 21 '14 at 04:45
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    @quantycuenta - If you buy 1000 shares in a $10 stock your outlay is $10,000, and your potential loss is $10,000. In fact if the stock price falls by just 10% your loss will be $1000. If on the other hand you bought 10 option contract priced at $0.50 your outlay and maximum loss would be $500. Both options would provide a similar gain if the stock price went up. So your risk (for the same gain) is greatly reduced in buying options instead of the underlying shares directly. – Victor Jul 21 '14 at 05:16
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    The current wording, "$10 more per share" suggests that strike prices are relative. In reality they're absolute. – MSalters Jul 21 '14 at 12:19
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    @Victor: However, the most likely event is that the stock doesn't move at all, and then holding the stocks gives you 0% loss whereas the options expiry without value (a $500 loss) – MSalters Jul 21 '14 at 12:20
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    @MSalters - if using options as a hedge, you are using them like an insurance policy on your underlying investments. In this case where the underlying price has not gone down, one has the choice of letting the option expire worthless, sell the option before expiry or roll it over to a new series. If trading the options for profits you can sell the option at a time when the underlying price has moved up (if a call). If you are suggesting that the underlying price does not move at all throughout the life of the option, then there is no liquidity in this stock - so why would anyone trade it? – Victor Jul 21 '14 at 13:31
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    @Victor: First off, we were comparing 1000 shares versus 10 options. When used as hedges, it's not an either/or situation. Secondly, if buyers and sellers are numerous but balanced, the price does not move yet the liquidity is high. In fact, price swings are generally seen as a sign of **low** liquidity. In a high liquidity market, no single seller can drive the price down. – MSalters Jul 21 '14 at 13:51
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    @MSalters - 10 option contracts is the equivalent of 1000 shares. Each contract is for 100 shares. FX are considered the most liquid markets and they can move around quite a lot. If you are trying to say that the market is appropriately priced that all participants agree to the current value, and that this value will not change over time. Well this situation does not exist. If the price never moved you would be better off leaving your money in the bank ! – Victor Jul 21 '14 at 14:15
  • Thanks for the edits. I was just trying to give as simple an explanation as possible without diving too far into the details. I appreciate any corrections if I oversimplified. – JohnFx Jul 21 '14 at 14:52
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There is a reason why most professional option traders are sellers instead of buyers. Option sellers IMO are analogous to insurance companies that come out ahead in the long run. That is not to say if you are bullish about a stock then you should not buy it. I personally would never buy an option outright and look to reduce my cost basis by selling options around it such as:

  • Buy 1 XYZ call option at $10
  • Sell 1 XYZ call option at $17.50
  • Sell 1 XYZ put at $7.50
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